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pelosi, the 2008 free bailout, free stimulus budget and spent $2.5 trillion. nobody complained it didn't spend enough. if we adopted their budget right now, the 2008 budget, $1 trillion per year less than we are spenning right now. >> sean: we spend all of this time with an election and we are right back where we were. i don't know the republicans that voted for an increase -- here's my question to you. here's my question. do you think the leadership in the house is glg to hold the line on increasing taxes? >> well, gee... i know that we had the biggest conservative wave election in american history 2 years ago. two years later, we had a continuing resolution, a continuing resolution, a continuing resolution, debt ceil being increase. we -- ceiling increase. we ended up cutting nothing, really. we really-- >>> you are saying no. >> two years of leverage for nothing. it's time to use the leverage of the house. it's one-half of one-third, but the most important half of the legislative body. the founders intended for congress to have the purrs strings and to use
pelosi, the 2008 free bailout, free stimulus budget and spent $2.5 trillion. nobody complained it didn't spend enough. if we adopted their budget right now, the 2008 budget, $1 trillion per year less than we are spenning right now. >> sean: we spend all of this time with an election and we are right back where we were. i don't know the republicans that voted for an increase -- here's my question to you. here's my question. do you think the leadership in the house is glg to hold the line...
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. >> and i got nancy pelosi on the road on that subject yesterday in a clip we have not played, from that interview but we're going to play in just a second. her reaction to that -- her diagnosis of that on the republican side and how she says it has been different in the past is fascinating and that's coming up. and it's apparently mraz. >> can i just say, every day, i get into my show and there's nine names that i forget to check the pronunciation. >> i thought it was mraz. i'm sorry mr. mraz. chris hayes, host of "up with chris hayes." i'm going to call it upha. ometh? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. out for drinks, eats. i have very well fitting dentures. i like to eat a lot of fruits. love them all. the seal i get with the super poligrip free keeps the seeds from getting up underneath. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out mor
. >> and i got nancy pelosi on the road on that subject yesterday in a clip we have not played, from that interview but we're going to play in just a second. her reaction to that -- her diagnosis of that on the republican side and how she says it has been different in the past is fascinating and that's coming up. and it's apparently mraz. >> can i just say, every day, i get into my show and there's nine names that i forget to check the pronunciation. >> i thought it was mraz....
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everything is going to be affected by this and we've been saying it since the canaan -- nancy pelosi said she had to read the darn thing. >> i know your criticism is they didn't read it before they passed it, but one of the big criticisms here is that there was no cost control in the law, so here we are. >> well, it's going to be that way. health care costs are rising everywhere. it's a universal problem. the thing is the people are going to try to find ways to get around this in the sense that it's going to cost them more and if they can find ways, they'll do it. you got 2200 pages of regulation that you're right, nobody has read. the people who administratorring it haven't read it. they're beginning to read it. we don't know what the ultimate cost is going to be. they're going to be taxes that come out of this, all kinds of other things that happen. in the meantime, if you hire over -- this is what is considered a small business -- if there are 50 people or less, you are subject to one thing. if you're hiring more than 50 people, you are subject to something else. if those people w
everything is going to be affected by this and we've been saying it since the canaan -- nancy pelosi said she had to read the darn thing. >> i know your criticism is they didn't read it before they passed it, but one of the big criticisms here is that there was no cost control in the law, so here we are. >> well, it's going to be that way. health care costs are rising everywhere. it's a universal problem. the thing is the people are going to try to find ways to get around this in...
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house minority leader nancy pelosi says no tax hike, no deal. >> close lop holes far too little money. and it could be they have said they want it to be revenue neutral. if it's going to bring in revenue. the president has been very clear that the higher income people have to pay their fair share. >> republicans argue now ♪ time to raise taxes on anyone if lawmakers don't reach a deal, hundreds of billions of dollars in tax increases and spending cuts go into effect january 1st. >> in new york, it apparently pays to be dead. you heard me. audit of the state's medicaid program from march of 2006, to february 2011, found that $1.9 million was coughed up for hundreds of people that were no longer alive. one person received more than $25,000 a year for seven years after he had died. that's a good business. in all, the audit found about $26.8 million in improper payments made by the program. people all over the country expressing their anger for obama care with their love of pizza. the group rebooting america organizing pappa johns appreciation day. that sounds familiar. it was meant to
house minority leader nancy pelosi says no tax hike, no deal. >> close lop holes far too little money. and it could be they have said they want it to be revenue neutral. if it's going to bring in revenue. the president has been very clear that the higher income people have to pay their fair share. >> republicans argue now ♪ time to raise taxes on anyone if lawmakers don't reach a deal, hundreds of billions of dollars in tax increases and spending cuts go into effect january 1st....
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which means in order for it to pass, nancy pelosi has to come over and knock on your door. what are your red lines on this? >> i suppose i'll have a number of red lines. number one, not a nickel in reductions and cost of living increases, social security, not a nickel in reductions to benefits to medicare and medicaid. those are probably the most primary red lines. then i would want to see -- >> that's interesting. >> i would want to see -- where you draw the red line, i don't know. i don't want to see more cuts in discretionary spending, i don't want to see increases to the military. i don't want to see revenue -- revenues, so-called, that will impact the middle class, like eliminating state and local taxes. that's a very important one. some of the proposals that are on the table now, they came from romney. they came from democrats saying great idea. let's cap deductions at 35,000 or $40,000. that will, in a high tax rate like you are, that will really almost eliminate to a large extent, deductibility, state and local taxes. which, in turn, will put more pressure on state
which means in order for it to pass, nancy pelosi has to come over and knock on your door. what are your red lines on this? >> i suppose i'll have a number of red lines. number one, not a nickel in reductions and cost of living increases, social security, not a nickel in reductions to benefits to medicare and medicaid. those are probably the most primary red lines. then i would want to see -- >> that's interesting. >> i would want to see -- where you draw the red line, i don't...
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. >> senate majority leader harry reid and democratic leader nancy pelosi sounded equally positive. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we'll both have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we understand that it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue, it has to be about growth. >> then came senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. so we might have a fly in the ointment. here it is. >> i can say on the part of my members that we fully understand that you can't save the country until you have entitlement programs that fit the demographics of the changing america in the coming years. we're prepared to put revenue on the table, provided we fix the real problem. >> the real problem? let me tell you something, senator. the real problem is two unfunded wars from the bush years, the bush tax cuts, and the give away to big pharma in the bush prescription drug program. senator mcconnell, it seems to me like he's up to something here. he knows how far senator bernie sanders and other democrats are going to defend the big three. social
. >> senate majority leader harry reid and democratic leader nancy pelosi sounded equally positive. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we'll both have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we understand that it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue, it has to be about growth. >> then came senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. so we might have a fly in the ointment. here it is. >> i can say on the...
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. >> senate majority leader harry reid and democratic leader nancy pelosi sounded equally positive. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we'll both have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we understand that it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue, it has to be about growth. >> then came senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. so we might have a fly in the ointment. here it is. >> i can say on the part of my members that we fully understand that you can't save the country until you have entitlement programs that fit the demographics of the changing america in the coming years. we're prepared to put revenue on the table, provided we fix the real problem. >> the real problem? let me tell you something, senator. the real problem is two unfunded wars from the bush years, the bush tax cuts, and the give away to big pharma. senator mcconnell, it seems to me like he's up to something here. he knows how far senator bernie sanders and other democrats are going to defend the big three. senator mcconnell is hoping to get the democr
. >> senate majority leader harry reid and democratic leader nancy pelosi sounded equally positive. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we'll both have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we understand that it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue, it has to be about growth. >> then came senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. so we might have a fly in the ointment. here it is. >> i can say on the...